Yes a mess that someone else has to clean up - literally in the case of toilet training.
Thanks to feminism children often come back to an empty home after school. With so many women having to do paid work to make ends meet I think the average home is not the nurturing environment it once was for children.
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To KelKel.
Let's nail this b.s. about feminism providing choices for women to work or stay at home. By 'liberating' women from domesticity the supply of labour increased dramatically. This brought down average wages in real terms and this explains why it now takes two wage earners to meet the cost of living when previously a man's wage was sufficient. So feminism is the reason why women have to be in the workforce to make ends meet.Does feminism have a negative affect on parenting?
You mean you really beleive people leave toddlers home alone? You two are messed up *****....
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I don't think it's because of working mothers that children are in general are toilet trained at a later age than they were in the past. I think it has a lot more to do with disposable diapers and the convenience they offer. When I was born 50 years ago, disposable diapers didn't exist. Parents used cloth diapers and because they stayed wet and caused diaper rash, the parents were in a much bigger rush to get their children toilet trained as soon as possible. It was not at all uncommon to have girls to be fully toilet trained by the time they were two years old and boys a little later. Now, with disposable diapers, the parents can leave them on all day and not change them until the child poops. There is no real incentive to hurry and get them toilet trained. The parents can simply keep buying larger sizes until the children themselves decide they are ready to train themselves.
I'd like to mention that working mothers are more likely to have their children toilet trained at an earlier age than stay-at-home mothers. That's because the children go to daycare and the workers there try to toilet train them as early as possible. Besides, most daycare centers will only take children over the age of two and only if they are toilet trained. The majority of them do not take infants or small children who are still in diapers so that's another incentive for working mothers to get their children toilet trained.
That has nothing to do with feminism and has everything to do with bad planning. People shouldn't have kids they don't have the time to take care of, and parenting isn't the sole responsibility of the woman.
I know that in the US it's common that women do the majority of the parenting, but it's not like that in many other countries (especially in Europe). Kids do better when they have both parents participating in raising them. Everyone is happier too.
It depends.
If the feminist woman works, it is better for the children, because they will brought up by specialists, as every woman is not the right one to bring up her children. Loving their children does not mean you can bring up them well.
If the feminist woman is at home it is worst, the worst of all. Because she will always ask for her ';rights'; exaggerating, so there will be abnormal situation. That will affect negatively children.
But not only this. I have seen with my own eyes mothers having one boy and one girl and favoring with scandal their daughters.
I don't think this has to do with feminism, but it is a problem when both parents are having to work long hours, and don't give enough attention to the kid.
It is equally the father's fault, as it is the mothers, if they are both living together.
It just shows that BOTH of them are not willing to give up their career ambitions to give enough attention to the kid.
How is it more mother's fault??
If there are two parents, it is BOTH of them who are responsible for the kids upbringing.
I don't see that it's feminism's fault that mothers have to work. Feminism provided women with the opportunity to *decide* if they would rather work or stay home and made it illegal to discriminate based on such choice.
Gas going up to $ 4 a gallon in the US and food almost doubling in price is not the fault of feminism. Both parents usually have to work today just to make it!
On the issue of potty training, I am training my son right now but since he goes to daycare sometimes the teachers there have to train him, too. I can't expect him to wait for me to show him what to do if he has to go at school!
I don't know of a five year old that's not potty trained and, if there are, it's definitely not that many.
Maybe men should be better fathers and not leave all of the parenting to the mother. More often than not, you've got a woman/mother that HAS to work outside the home, plus she goes home and does the traditional female-gendered chores, and all men do it b*tch about paying child support. The child hears dad b*tchin about paying child support, gets a complex and pees his pants.
I couldn't help but notice that the feminists turned this right around to blaming the fathers and saying it is not true. Guess what, it is true. I have seen children as old as 4 not yet potty trained and it is due to nothing but sheer laziness on the parents part (please note, I said parents not just mother). It takes all of a week to potty train a child at 2 years of age if it is done correctly. It is NOT the job of a daycare worker to potty your children.
Here are a few other things I have noticed that don't get taught any more. Manners, children are no longer taught to use even the most simple forms of mannerly behaviour, such as saying please and thank you. Life skills, like doing chores, helping in the kitchen, cleaning up their own messes. Ethics, these are not taught by the telly or daycare workers, they are taught in the home. If the children are not in the home, they don't get to learn them.
I could go on, but I think I have made my point. It is up to parents to teach the most important things in life, not daycare workers, not teachers.
Gee...you'd think these children had FATHERS who could take on the role of toilet training their own children, since the mothers need to work to feed the family.
But as we all know, expecting fathers to take care of the children they spawned, apparently, is laughable.
And a few isolated anecdotes does not a conclusion make.
just like feminists to not take any responsibility for their children, it has to be up to the schools, daycare, fathers etc, to raise the children. We wouldn't want the feminists to be oppressed by actually raising their own children when everyone else in society can so they can be fulfilled. Good job feminists, you won this one, but we'll be back!
So its only the mother's job to toilet train children, how enlightning! I would think the father should share that task.
I would say that a child with a working set of parents has not been left home alone. They have been to daycare centers. They have had training.
Some 5 year olds have accidents. They are in unfamiliar places and get to engrossed in what they are doing. All of a sudden an accident. But then someone who has experience in child raising would know that. I understand your lack of knowledge!
working mothers do childcare too,
and these kids do have fathers to take half of the works.
and if parents are too busy but could afford to get a maid
then a maid would be paid to do the potty train and other childcare
if only men never view housewives as servants, but as equal partners that do different things, perhaps more number of women would feel confident enough to stay at home and look after their family.
I think it does, if the mother, as a result of her feminist beliefs, teaches her kids that women are better and men are inferior (yes, it happens, sadly!) or is never home because she's career-obsessed. Otherwise, if the woman is a moderate feminist (and most seem to be), I don't think it's negative for the kids at all.
Uh huh. Exactly how many unpotty-trained 5 year olds have you met? Now how many working mothers? I'm betting one number is much, much larger than the other, which would indicate a weak correlation at best.
Where did you read/see/hear of kindergarten teachers having to toilet train their students?
Never heard of any such thing.
My mother worked, she was single, I was a daycare kid..I was toilet trained by 2.
Yes, overbearing mothers have created some of the most prolific serial killers in history.
so its bad for women to now have the liberation that men have had for so long?
no sexism in that
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